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The AR15 is a military weapon (Odessa update)

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Colt AR15 “Sporter” carbine (Image Credit: Wikipedia)

The AR-15, M4A1 and M16 are essentially the same with respect to lethality.

This post will be re-posted every time I hear about a mass shooting using an AR-15.

Re-posted on September 1, 2019, after the mass shooting of random people after a traffic stop went bad in Odessa, TX.

Re-posted on August 7, 2019, after people outside the Ned Steppers Bar in Dayton, OH were attacked by a man wielding an AR-15 loaded with a 100 round drum.

Re-posted on April 8, 2019, after the Congregation Chabad synagogue in Poway, CA was attacked by an anti-Semite wielding an AR-15 style rifle.

Re-posted on October 27, 2018, after the Tree of Life synagogue in Pittsburgh, PA was attacked by an anti-Semitic white supremacists wielding an AR-15.

Originally posted March 25, 2018

With the March for our Lives yesterday, I’ve been thinking a lot about guns. So I did a bit of research on the M4 carbine vs. the M16 rifle vs. AR15-style rifles. Here’s what I found:

M4A1 carbine: 5.56x45mm NATO calibre, ~550 yd effective range, ~3000 ft/sec muzzle velocity, semi-auto/burst/full-auto. From what I’ve heard from vets, soldiers are trained not to fire in burst or full-auto except as suppression fire because it’s too inaccurate.

M16 rifle: 5.56x45mm NATO calibre, ~550 yd effective range, ~3000 ft/sec muzzle velocity, semi-auto/burst/full-auto. From what I’ve heard from vets, soldiers are trained not to fire in burst or full-auto except as suppression fire because it’s too inaccurate.

AR15-style rifles: 5.56x45mm NATO calibre, ~550 yd effective range, ~3000 ft/sec muzzle velocity, semi-auto only.

The M4A1 (and variants), the M16 (and variants) are military only. The AR15 may be owned by civilians.

From what I can tell, the three weapons are essentially the same with respect to lethality. The semi-auto only for the AR15-style rifle is a distinction without a difference given the military trains soldiers/airmen/seamen/marines to fire semi-auto anyway.

We regulate military weapons in the US, legally, under the Second Amendment (which does have the words “well-regulated militia” right there in it). The AR-15 is, for all intents and purposes, a military weapon, even according to veterans.

So why do we allow civilians to own a military weapon again?

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  1. weapon noun
    weap·​on | \ ˈwe-pən
    \
    Definition of weapon

    (Entry 1 of 2)
    1 : something (such as a club, knife, or gun) used to injure, defeat, or destroy
    2 : a means of contending against another

    weapon verb
    weaponed; weaponing; weapons

    Definition of weapon (Entry 2 of 2)

    transitive verb
    : arm

    A firearm is not a weapon until used to injure, defeat, or destroy as defined above. It takes a person to make a firearm, club, knife, fork, pencil a weapon.

    Blame the hate for mass shooting not the firearm. Outlaw firearms and the hate will still manifest
    in other ways.

    • Jesus Fucking Christ. Nobody thinks getting rid of guns gets rid of hate. Getting rid of guns dramatically decreases the body count.

      Please tell me you’re a troll because you can’t honestly be this daft.