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Tournament of Rock IV: Stevie Nicks vs. Duran Duran #NSFW

UPDATE: Due to intense interest, we’re going to extend voting an extra day in this match. Polls close at midnight tonight (MST). Get your votes in.

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I keep predicting close matches and I keep being wrong. Way wrong. In the last match Bon Jovi absolutely stomped Boston, corralling 82% of the vote. I’m not surprised that Bon Jovi got a lot of votes, but I am surprised that Boston got so little love. Shows what I know. So in the next match I’m going to predict a blowout. Since I think Duran Duran ought to beat Stevie Nicks, I’m picking Stevie in a landslide. Take that.

fikshun: Stevie beat Ozzy. Stevie has more solo hits than all the members of Duran Duran combined. Neither artist has sponsored a commercial product. Duran Duran isn’t on speaking terms with their former guitarist. It’s an open question whether the same is true with Stevie. This could get interesting.

Bonesparkle: I’ve decided to cast my vote based on hotness. In this round, Nick Rhodes is way prettier than Stevie Nicks.

Me: Some people slur Stevie by saying she slept her way to the top, which is totally unfair. You don’t think Simon LeBon would have slept his way to the top given half a chance?

Up first, it’s a shame that whole sparkly vampire thing didn’t come around 25 years sooner.

I selected the uncensored version of Duran Duran’s “Girls on Film” because I’m very interested in photography. That’s the only reason. (#NSFW)

Click to vote.

Here’s the up-to-date bracket.

66 comments on “Tournament of Rock IV: Stevie Nicks vs. Duran Duran #NSFW

  1. Did you mean to have this sentence in your post? “Maybe this faceoff will generate some drama at the polls: it’s the fifth seeded boys who gave love a bad name vs. #12, just another band out of Boston, on the road to try to make ends meet.”

    I’m disappointed Boston didn’t do better.

    I’m voting for Stevie Nicks here, at least she doesn’t sound like Kelly Clarkson/Ashlee Simpson/Pink/whoever else I can’t tell apart.

    I would have slept my way to the top if I could have.

  2. Let’s have a fair fight. You are putting “Moonlight” (which is great but not a classic) up against “Girls On Film” (one of DD’s biggest hits)… How about “Leather & Lace” vs. “Ordinary World” or “Stand Back” vs. “Hungry Like The Wolf”… I think it’s clear Stevie is getting the shaft on this one. So much for the Queen Of Rock & Roll beating a bunch of pretty boys. One last thing, and this is coming from someone who likes DD, when have they ever “rocked?”

    • Can you say Wild Boys? Even though Simon cannot sing very well live. The concerts they had a hard guitar line, heavy bass and an impressive almost impossible to replicate drumming. (My in laws are musically inclined and cannot finish the drums on Rio in expert pro.) I would say that they did rock out.

    • Um excuse me??? You obviously haven’t been to a Duran Duran concert if you think they can’t ROCK! And I love Stevie as much as DD so I’m not saying anything bad against her. Both are fantastic artists who know how to bring it at concerts!

  3. As if Stevie Nicks was ever in the same league as DD, come on. Unfair.
    Where did fikshun get the idea that SN had more hits than all DD members put together?
    Ask any 20 year old today who each of them are, and you’ll get a gist of their relevance through time.
    And Beau, when have they ever rocked? Every time they set their feet on stage.

      • “One last thing, and this is coming from someone who likes DD, when have they ever “rocked?”

        ….. White Lines…. look it up again. Try not to move while you listen.
        Need another? I Wanna Take You Higher (either version)
        …need another? Wild Boys
        …more? Red Carpet Massacre
        not convinced? Planet Earth (any Live version will do too)

        and as recent as their current album (where’s Stevie’s?) ALL YOU NEED IS NOW.

        I guess I like those DD boys since they have showed in an OLYMPIC fashion their rightful place.

        I’m done for now.
        End of lesson.

    • Sorry, perhaps my comment could be clearer. Full disclosure, I’m a much bigger Duran Duran fan than a Stevie fan. But, you’re comparing a solo artist against a band. How many solo hits did Duran Duran have? I think Andy Taylor might have had one or two. Stevie has had success in several genres: ’70s Partridge Family rock (the first two records), Adult contemporary (“Sarah”), southern-tinged rock (with Tom Petty), AM ballad (with Don Henley), ’80s synth pop (“Stand Back”, “Talk to Me”), and straight up rock (“Edge of Seventeen”). The only hit that I can think of for DD that wasn’t firmly rooted in their ’80s new romantic sound was their prom slow dance hit “Ordinary World”. One mark of a corporate rocker should be to change with the times and keep pushing the brand. I don’t think DD did.

      • Beau: The contest isn’t between those two videos. It’s between the artists, and we all know their careers. The videos were just selections drawn at semi-random (although I assure you, if Stevie had produced a video with mud wrestling, that would have been included).

        • I am aware that the contest is between the artists and not the videos. However, it is telling that “semi-random” means: the video for Stevie is from her “later-career-60+years-not-as-sexy-as-she-used-to-be” era, while for DD, we get mud wrestling naked women in all their 80’s glory. But all that aside, Stevie hands down should beat almost anyone in this tournament.

      • DD has a sound that is unique and original, which did change throughout their career. I don’t see that as a weakness but as a strength.

        I believe that Duran Duran was commercially more successful (album sales, hit singles, etc.) than Stevie Nicks HOWEVER that doesn’t seem to be what this competition is about.

        If this contest was framed: “Which musical act is better to dance to?” Duran Duran beats Stevie Nicks and should eventually go to the finals. The contest is comparing “Rock” acts and this is not Duran’s strength. Duran Duran is my favorite band, yet I’m voting Stevie Nicks. Rocking is not Duran Duran’s wheelhouse.

      • Duran Duran I would say is far more conscious and aggressive pushing their brand than Stevie Nicks. Their sound has changed throughout their 30-year career as well. For example, the 80’s New Romantic music really ended for them by 1983. That was followed by their Pop phase, then a pop/adult contemporary phase in the 90’s.

        Solo hits for Duran would be limited to the following:
        Andy Taylor
        John Taylor
        The Power Station
        Arcadia

        In all fairness, it is easier for a singer to find other acts to record duets with than say the bass player for Duran Duran to launch a solo career (although he did have a Top 10 solo hit) or sing a duet with Sting.

        I stick with my original answer though – Who rocks more? Stevie Nicks. This is her playground and Duran should lose. Simon le Bon himself stated that Duran is the band that we want you to dance to (think nightclub or party). I think Stevie is the Rocker and deserves the win.

        Tim

    • THANK YOU! The wild boys ALWAYS rock at their concerts! And so does Stevie. This is coming from a 21 year old who has seen both artists live.

  4. Stevie Nicks gets my vote.
    Duran Duran had a handful of great songs but, like a shooting star they burned brightly for a brief time and then faded from relevancy pretty quickly (except of course for the hard core fans).
    Stevie Nicks had some great songs too as a solo artist and HER influence and contribution to Fleetwood Mac was huge. I mean songs like Rhiannon, Landslide, Gold Dust Woman, Gypsy etc. were HER songs even though they were while she was with Fleetwood Mac.)
    As far as influence goes I think Stevie Nicks influence has been much bigger. She is one of the all-time biggest women rock stars in history. And as such, she has had a huge influence for the better part of forty years. As artists like Grace Slick and Janis Joplin influenced her she has had, in my opinion, an even stronger influence on artists that came after her such as Sheryl Crow, Sarah McLachlan, Alanis Morisette and many others I can’t recall off the top of my head.

  5. I could go on for days about the merits of Stevie Nicks over any other artist but I’ll keep it simple: Stevie Nicks – Legendary Rock & Roll Icon…. Duran Duran – Great Pop Band. That about sums it up.

    • I stick with my statement that Duran Duran “burned brightly for a brief time and faded quickly”. I knew that might be provocative which is why I put in “except for the hard core fans”, which you apparently are.
      Back to what really happened, if you go back to say 1983/84 and recall how much airplay they were getting on the radio, the videos on high rotation on MTV and the venues they were playing (lot of places with “Arena” or “Coliseum” in the title, two nights in NYC at Madison Square Garden) – they were undeniably huge at the time.
      But, then fast forward just a few short years and two of the original band members had quit (and wouldn’t rejoin until 2003). Suddenly, you just didn’t hear much from or about them anymore. When they did tour they would be playing a lot of places with “Theater”, “Ballroom”, “Casino” or “House of Blues” in the title. With the exception of England where they’d often play big venues in major cities, they’d be in places like Biloxi, MS or Tulsa, OK or of course one can’t discount their famous Eastern European tour.
      I think that pretty well describes a rapid fall from grace.
      That’s great for them and their fans that they have gotten back together and are touring again. But, to be honest like so many bands that were very popular for a brief time a long time ago it is a “nostalgia” tour. There is nothing wrong with that. Don’t believe me? Go to setlist.fm and look up any of their recent shows, the last one was at the famous musical mecca that is the Foxwoods Casino in Mashantucket, CT. With the exception of a couple songs, all are from their peak more than 25 years ago. Would anyone but the hardest of hardcore fans go to a Duran Duran show because they really want to hear their new music?

      • Really? Duran Duran just “faded out”? Does that include when they sold out FIVE NIGHTS at Wemly Arena in 2004-ish? Does that include when they posted some tour dates around the reunion and all the shows SOLD OUT IN MINUTES AND CRASHED TICKETMASTER’S WEBSITE? Does that include their almost two year long tour that they just go off of, in which they played arenas all over the world? And if Duran Duran aren’t still popular, than why is this coming from a 16 year old girl? I’ve loved Duran Duran all my life, I’ve seen all their videos, I know almost EVERYTHING about them, I made my parents spend upwards of $300 on concert tix and then dragged my parents to the concerts with me, I bought and read Andy’s and then John’s book, I fantasize about being with Simon Le Bon, I have at least 200 pics of the Durans on my phone and probably 500 more on my computer (from the 80’s, the 90’s, and now), I annoy my friends about Duran Duran–because after all, this isn’t the 80’s or even the 90’s anymore–and I even made my parents buy me magazines and posters from the 80’s, which I paid a LOT more for than I would’ve then, all of which are about 14 years older than me. And why exactly would I do this instead of just being crazy for One Direction or Black Veil Brides or Justin Beiber or whoever? Well, let’s just say that it’s not because Duran Duran were only popular for a few years then faded away.

      • That’s such bull crap! They have been touring heavily with their new material. I love Stevie just as much but I’m sorry, are you going to tell me she doesn’t tour heavily with her old stuff? ALSO, Fleetwood Mac’s upcoming tour will mark the third time she has been to Tulsa. I would know… I live in OK. She’s played as many casinos as DD has. You can’t compare the two. They are both awesome!

      • Brief time they were hot from 1981 to 1985—how many bands and artists are hot for that long? Not many my friend! Duran Duran rock live–one of the best bands ever live!!!

    • I don’t have a theory… I have an opinion. An opinion that NO ONE has to go along with or support. And you’re right, why would the content of this post (videos, comments, etc.) have ANYTHING to do with the voting? My mistake. Peace.

    • This is the biggest turnout of any contest in the tournament so far, and the result is far from clear at this point. Props to both DD and Stevie’s fans – you’re all doing your artists proud.

  6. Duran Duran are great, but they’re a pop band, if they were 25 years younger they would be a boy band. Stevie Nicks is the QUEEN of rock and roll.

    • Let’s get something straight: boy bands are a group who stands on stage and does stupid dance moves. I’m sorry but Duran Duran can actually play instruments and have TALENT! Would you call Coldplay, Maroon 5, or the Rolling Stones a boy band? I think not! And this is coming from someone who has seen both DD and Stevie live. They both rock. Deal with it.

      • I wonder could you clarify – have you seen both acts live? You didn’t make it clear in *all* your posts!

        You know posting multiple times saying basically the same thing is spamming. And boring to trawl through.

  7. Stevie Nicks is the more gifted of the two. Not even counting her work with Fleetwood Mac,she has had more hits then Duran. Even if my young generation doesnt know her name,they know all her hit songs by heart. She still tours constantly and still manages to sell out. the queen of rock and roll. And for extra credit:she isthe only female left on this show down.

    • Gifted is a little subjective to determine. I would also venture as a solo act she has not had more Top 10 hits than Duran Duran, especially globally.

      Both points are for naught since it comes down to only one category – who is the better rocker? That would be Stevie. Duran is an original pop dance band that was heavily influenced by Chic, Roxy Music, and David Bowie. Stevie has less dance/disco influence, more Rock.

      Although I love Duran, I’m not sure why they are on this list for this contest? Perhaps a better British band to list would have been The Police? I apologize if they were already listed on another board of the competition.

      Tim

  8. I picked Stevie cause I really don’t like Girls on Film. Saw them both live and they both put on a hell of a show. If it would of been one of her more popular songs and one of their better songs it would of been a hard one to decide on

  9. So, the definition of ‘boy band’ doesn’t cover what DD are. They’re innovative and always reinventing themselves, FAR from manufactured, choreographed and ‘just pretty’. Just because they’re all male and in a band, it doesn’t automatically make them a boy band. They write their own music and play their own instruments…As for Stevie Nicks, I have no doubt of her influence on musicians over time, just like Duran have had the same influence on many bands. I know they were a massive pop band in the 80’s but they’re actually still going, still releasing new music, and still killing it live, selling out venues all over the world. So get past the 80’s people, they have.

  10. Such a hard choice…but I go with my heart, Duran Duran! While Stevie is an icon and fabulous…Duran is highly underrated and outside of their fans and hardly ever get the credit for influencing many of today’s great alternative bands, like the Smashing Pumpkins, the Killers, No Doubt, Barenaked Ladies, Deftones, Korn and others!

  11. I love Stevie, solo and as a member of Fleetwood Mac where she was, hand’s down, the best songwriter. But if you ask the average member of Generation X or Y to name their hit songs, I believe you’ll get more listed with the boys from Birmingham. Just an opinion…

  12. Duran Duran all the way!!! I do love Stevie’s voice, but I’m a huge Duran fan.. I even named by business after one of their songs :)…. I’ve seen them at huge venues in Philly, and casino’s at AC in NJ.. I would rather see them @ the casino’s..much more fun!! I think that there is no more MTV, and the radio just don’t play their new stuff. That’s why people call them “Has beens” but they are still around.. Hands down they Play and sound much better now, then they did back in the 80’s..

  13. HUGE DD fan, but hardcore Stevie loyalist. D is one of the best concerts I’ve ever been too, but I’ll follow Stevie state to state to see her spin =0p

    • Seriously?.. after 30 years …. Not quite sure what you mean.. ‘who will remember Duran Duran?’.. lol… Have you been to a DD concert recently? Just take a look at the audience to see the HUGE variety of age ranges!….. these polls are just silly anyway.. it’s fan club against fan club.. not artist against artist.

  14. Retro Hound, if corporate equals sell-out, doesn’t that make the mighty Beatles the biggest sell-outs in history?

    I have to go for Duran Duran here. I just don’t think Stevie is in the same league. Duran Duran defined an era. Wrote and continue to write all their own stuff, are a force live and boast one of the finest bass players in rock and pop.

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